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asreal 9/15/2018 3:08 AM

thanks!

Also done'd

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We took the survey

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Took the survey. Not sure if i'll be on discord much longer, but tulpa.info forum definately.

Thanks!!

Yr welcome. Pm/email if you want to hear more from my system.

http://community.tulpa.info/thread-survey-mental-issues-and-tulpa-quantity-correlative-survey Please read this and fill out the short 4-question survey. Thank you (edited)

Mental Issues and Tulpa Quantity Correlative Survey

I was curious to see if there was a correlation between a host going through mental issues and them ending up with a substantial amount of tulpas. I created this survey to gauge the correlation. This

(added a fourth question. If you submitted before I added it, then please submit again. I'll probably end up discarding the submissions from before adding that question)

saw all 4.

I'll redo it

make me

I have zero mental issues and one Tulpa, and she seems healthy too. But this is skewed and only asks people with tulpas, and it only gathers data from a single group. It’s not very valid and can’t be generalized outside of the tulpa community... but I guess that’s the point.

Oh, shame I would have filled it out, had I seen it in time.

Why would I care to get data from people with 0 tulpas when that isn't what I'm measuring

1:49 PM

It's comparing mental health to tulpa count, not mental health of tulpamancers to mental heslth of singlets

Maybe singlets can work as a control group

The "No mental issues" is a control

2:08 PM

Singlets are useless in this data

2:08 PM

I am measuring number of tulpas

0s are good to have in data too

2:17 PM

compare the negatives to positives

2:18 PM

I'm pretty sure singlets would be a control in this situation.

2:18 PM

or, would be the best option to be a control

sorry but I disagree bc that data is useless to me. Besides it's a survey not an experiment

compare the ratio of both groups

why would I need people with 0 tulpas to find a trend in the number of tulpas people have

i thought it was comparing mental health to tulpa count

2:22 PM

singlets have mental health issues and lack of them too

I'm not measuring singlets

2:22 PM

I'm measuring tulpamancers

that's why you have a separate control group

2:23 PM

that's arbitrary

it's arbitrary to add data I do not need

2:24 PM

now can we stop arguing because the poll was closed a long while ago

While not wanting to argue, just giving some thoughts. in general, as I'm sort of an experimental design geek ^^;... Firstly, since @Felight is only doing a correlation (and remember, you should never draw conclusions based on correlations!) they wouldn't need a control group, That's for experiments where you're actually trying to prove causation. What's done is done (as this survey has concluded), it could be worth designing a new survey/experiment ( if @Deleted User is interested) to measure this datapoint. It technically wouldn't be a control group, but it could in theory help with confounds. During one of my classes, I recall one major survey years ago that found an interesting correlation with longevity, I believe in the UK. They did a study and found that people who were more obese were healthier and living longer than those who were skinny! There was a positive correlation with being overweight and health. How could this be? Well, they never actually asked the people if they smoked or not, and smokers tended to be skinnier than nonsmokers. After adjusting for smokers, they found the trend reversed. Where am I getting at? As long as we're not drawing conclusions, Apollo is fine given they are within their own expectations. Hopefully with their data we can design other surveys to get into more specifics. Science usually builds on something like a correlation with a more focused study to hone in on something, then a more focused study on that, etc. Personally I would like to see more studies that measure something in populations without tulpas and populations with tulpas, to see if there are any differences, though that doesn't have to be the purpose of this study.... And that's why I'm always encouraging people to design their own experiments and surveys, and I'll encourage people to fill them out ^^

Yeah, I'm treating the whole thing as correlation and not causation, only giving some minor speculation here and there for causes, but never concluding that those causes are precisely correct by the data, since there's really no telling

owo

Need some people who know a thing or two about survey design and data to help me improve a list of questions I've built for an upcoming survey. DM me please. (edited)

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-research-on-tulpamancy

Research on Tulpamancy

Hi everyone! We are psychology sudents at Bethel University and are conducting a research study on tulpamancy. We posted 4 months ago on /r/Tulpas asking for several community members to give us feedb

no compensation? eh

7:51 PM

Can't do it anyway as we'd lose our job unfortunately.

7:52 PM

Not all hosts/tulpas are neets, haha.

You'd lose your job for an online survey?

Oh, wow. I thought it was the full on study involving the doctor from months ago. Still no info on that.

That's at Stanford

7:53 PM

Hopefully close to actually happening

Crossing our fingers.

Yeah it seems like a lot of studies on tulpamancy end up only getting half finished

Results from the Tulpa Happiness Survey: tldr is that not a lot of obvious, broad patterns seem to exist regarding tulpa happiness except that more forcing may lead to a happier tulpa, and tulpas are significantly happier than their hosts on average. You can read the full PDF report/summary here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XzUgoTlImXm014KXOxqxDyvi-Wg2MO9n/view?usp=sharing And can see the raw data (edited to remove personal responses and several invalid responses entirely) here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oPHMiSRgPhFGb4_B7yZLBKMCLlkAZntj

tulpa_happiness_summary.pdf

I am working on an imposition guide and I am looking for people to interview to get better informed about how the process went for other people. If you are experienced with imposition and would be willing to be interviewed please DM me. I likely won't get to you immediately, so please be patient.

Alright, I have the first draft of a potential survey drawn up. I need feedback and suggestions. Please do not respond, as your responses will not be counted when I actually do the survey. https://goo.gl/forms/kjl0BOahGInOpg4y1

Tulpa Form and Identity Survey

All questions pertain to ONLY the FIRST and INTENTIONALLY CREATED tulpa in a system. Please do not respond if you do not fit that profile - it keeps the data more accurate!

Looks cool @salad

Oh hey

12:59 PM

I was working on something similar, @salad

1:01 PM

Mine is badly unfinished and nobody should answer but here's the link anyway in case it gives ideas.... https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfCrioNP1UDRJpwBjxpiHXwPV9sz_ovAjSA3sbAMszA7DeHmg/viewform?usp=sf_link

Survey

Please complete once per tulpa. You can submit another one using the same link. For best results and highest chance of being included in the graphs, use the "other" option as little as possible.

I took it, we're shapeshifters so our form changes at a whim, but we're mostly seraphim.

10:42 PM

Even my avatar in wonderland is.

we kinda want to take the survery but i don't think we could

2:18 PM

since none of them are ready yet

Are there any other surveys?

for kopase's survey you should add another option for the "personality reflects the gender" cause for me it isn't yes or no it's more like "sometimes" or even unsure would be a good answer. he's more weaker than a guy should usually be and shy and sweet and cute but then sometimes he can be more masculine and serious so ??

I find it funny that five people took my survey.

2:23 PM

Or wait

2:23 PM

was that all Spirit Bear

2:23 PM

How many tulpas does he have.

do you want me to take your survey?

It's unfinished and any responses won't make it into the finished version

2:23 PM

so probably don't.

2:23 PM

I'll open it up so people can see the other responses though

i can still take it for fun though

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfCrioNP1UDRJpwBjxpiHXwPV9sz_ovAjSA3sbAMszA7DeHmg/viewanalytics Here's the other responses if you wanted to look.

Survey

Please complete once per tulpa. You can submit another one using the same link. For best results and highest chance of being included in the graphs, use the "other" option as little as possible.

2:26 PM

Feel free to take whatever

for the one question it's mostly just art style so what do you mean by style

If art style is how you primarily visualize them, yeah that counts as style change

2:28 PM

I might want to edit that to be more clear, thanks.

Wow

2:29 PM

So 3 of 7 people create their Tulpa intentionally

wow

Well, 3 of 7 tulpas were created intentionally

2:30 PM

The test is once per tulpa

for the next question i kind of care but the rest of the system couldn't care less so i would go for a 4.

Actually I'm kind of happy a few people took it, that gave me some feedback to change a few things.

i think that one could be its separate thing. like does the host care vs what the system thinks

That's true. Though I think maybe I should separate it by rest of system and main person that forced the tulpa, yeah? Since tulpas can force tulpas and I was more wondering if the connection of the main forcer is higher, but then that brings the problem of how to ask that question in a way that walk-ins can answer...

You like to keep the name Anonymous?

pardon?

No. It's nothing

you could make it more bland like Does the host care about the form? What does the rest of the system think?

2:39 PM

cause even if it's a walk-in they could still answer

It's just rare for me to see a survey that doesn't apply the name...

2:40 PM

Because every time I complete a survey, you're always asked to type your name

Oh. I've actually never encountered a survey that wants my name, other than log-in-only surveys

2:41 PM

@Deleted User thank you for your feedback

np

we just took the survey

lmao guys.

3:05 PM

Also here's v0.2 made with the feedback I've seen: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1e1IdPG6Rk09lkFvRSp6QK7szp_Tg2USO8p1Eq1taPcY Again, answers are visible at the end, but now it has a feedback box for comments.

Tupper Form Survey (Beta)

Please complete once per tulpa. You can submit another one using the same link. For best results and highest chance of being included in the graphs, use the "other: fill in answer" option as little as possible. Overuse of that will lead to your answer being pruned.

3:06 PM

And again, don't take it unless you want to kill time.

3:06 PM

These are beta versions for feedback and the answers will be wiped when I post the real one. (edited)

well we had time to kill